Approachers of ideas around gods, philosophers and theologians

Many find because a deity can not scientifically proven there is therefore no deity existing. However, they do not ask themselves what scientific rules should be applied and of which or where the authenticity or accuracy of this knowledge can come from. Many things that were once seen as scientifically valid are disrupted by the passage of time and are at present beheld as ‘Kwats’ or ‘Rubbish’.

From a painting of Immanuel Kant

From a painting of Immanuel Kant (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The approach to the idea of a god, the God, or gods, has through the centuries also undergone many changes. For example, at the beginning of the last century most philosophers thought that god arguments were finally laid to rest by thinkers like Immanuel Kant (1724 – 1804) and David Hume (1711-1776). Today, no one thinks so and yet we can find again quite new arguments for the existence of God. Like the earlier ideas or explanations for the existence or not of a god or the God, we can find many philosophers using thousands of words to get their right of reason. We also do find lots of contradictions in their works and lots of fierce debate. Arguments that are not amenable to traditional objections to it are now brought forward by American and British philosophers like Alvin Plantinga (1932), Richard Swinburne (1934), Robert Koons and Alexander Pruss.

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Image of Alvin Plantinga (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

Today we find new arguments emanating from things that for most people are acceptable, and then, according to Emanuel Rutten and Jeroen de Ridder, through strictly logical reasoning steps out onto the God conclusion.

Philosophy of Religion might well become one of the greatest philosophical sub-disciplines, similar to the logic of the 17th and 18th century philosophy, but according to Maarten Keulemans a bit smaller than, say, applied ethics, political philosophy, or the philosophy of the Classics.

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Immanuel Kant — transcendental idealism (chart — Polish-language version). (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

In our world we have lots of people who call themselves theologists or theologians, men of God, priests, pastors, and claim you are not able to understand the Bible without them. But would God have made His Words so difficult that people who did not follow special courses to understand His Word or who had no opportunity to go to school would not be able to understand His Words? Not at all!

Throughout history there have been men who felt called by God and who wanted to study the Word of God to make it clear to others. Often they were faithful to their calling and faith. But at times they felt caught between what they understood and what teachings or doctrines their associated group taught. Many did not dare to abandon the group or church they associated with first. Many also tried not to become to much influenced with the liberal ways of many or to become compromised or making concessions with their own and others their beliefs. Though there were theologians (like they liked to call themselves) who went other ways than their first denomination. They abandoned their first church either to form an other church themselves or to go to an other church community.

Those thinking outside of the box soon where called heretics and fought against.

Those thinkers, like us, also encountered people who did not believe in a Divine Creator or did find god and gods nothing but the absurd. Though all created in the image of God such non-believing persons do not feel their inner voice, nor want to see all the wonderworks of the Most High. Normally a person does not need theologians or learned persons to come to know God. God can be ‘seen’ and ‘felt’ in the things around us.

Despite all the evidence for the existence of God and the arguments we can find in the many theological and philosophical books, we can fill loads of rooms full of such books going into discussion about the Creator and the creation.

Many people do think God is just an excuse for people to feel at ease and is a creation of man which caused a lot of wars. They do forget that lot more battles are fought which have nothing to do with God and which are not about God. And those where God is mentioned are most often just an excuse to go to battle to gain more territory or more power. Even certain churches have blood on their hands, using the name of God and the name of Christ to enlarge their territory and to gain more power. What we see today with ISIS some centuries we could see the same with the Roman Catholic Church. (Crusades and Inquisition)

It is horrible what certain churches have done in name of Christianity. We must be aware that all those people doing these evil things in the name of God/Allah were and are wrong. The God of Abraham, which should be the God of Jews, Christians and Muslims hates such wrongdoing and want the people of the earth to respect each-other and to live together in peace.

In many regions people having a certain faith do want to impose their faith onto others without accepting other ways of thinking. In such communities we see the freedom of speech and the freedom of religion in danger.


What is Theology?}

He wants us to believe that

When theology is truly studied, it ushers you into a deep relationship with God. Theology is not simply the study of God, but an interaction with God, a conversation with Him and with others about the deep mysteries of divinity. Theology is thinking God’s thoughts after Him. It is tracing the mind and heart of God, and learning to see the world through the eyes of God. What is Theology?}

Though when hearing those theologians and the different philosophers going in against each other we can wonder where their relationship with God and His creations is. Sometimes we do find they want to divide others into groups and those who do not use the same vocabulary or their glossary are considered from the wrong camp and to be totally wrong in their thinking of even being considered not serious thinkers.

Not needing those arguing people we should trust that God wants us to give inside when we are willing to study His word. And that is what our priority should be. Listening to that infallible Word of God, given to us by way of the Book of books, the Bible.



Continued thought on

Filosofen, theologen en ogen naar de ware kennisgever van bestaan van God

Finding and Understanding Words and Meanings


Additional readings:

  1. Why think there’s a God? (1): Something from Nothing
  2. Necessity of a revelation of creation 11 Believing and obeying the gospel of the Kingdom of God
  3. Science and the Bible—Do They Really Contradict Each Other?
  4. See God’s wonderworks and hear His Voice
  5. Challenging claim 3 Inspired by God 2 Inerrant Word of God
  6. Challenging claim 4 Inspired by God 3 Self-consistent Word of God
  7. A Living Faith #2 State of your faith
  8. Looking for a primary cause and a goal that can not offer philosophers existing beliefs
  9. Philosophy hand in hand with spirituality
  10. When you think you have nothing to say or to show
  11. Not following the tradition of man
  12. Being Religious and Spiritual 4 Philosophical, religious and spiritual people
  13. Being Religious and Spiritual 5 Gnostic influences
  14. Being Religious and Spiritual 6 Romantici, utopists and transcendentalists
  15. Thomas Aquinas on Wisdom by Robert M. Woods
  16. Are religious and secular ethicists climbing the same mountain
  17. Sharing thoughts and philosophical writings
  18. Self-development, self-control, meditation, beliefs and spirituality
  19. A philosophical error which rejects the body as part of the human person
  20. Disscusion Questions
  21. Epicurus’ Problem of Evil
  22. Cleanliness and worrying or not about purity
  23. Pulpit reserved for the pastor
  24. Follower of Jesus part of a cult or a Christian
  25. Integrity of the fellowship
  26. Writers needed to preach to non-believers
  27. When believing in God’s existence and His son, possessing a divine legislation
  28. Not true or True Catholicism and True Islam
  29. Can we not do what Jesus did?
  30. Agape, a love to share with others from the Fruit of the Spirit


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